About a month ago, 13th Age completed their Kickstarter for a 2nd Edition of the game. Since the meaning of "edition" has become a contested space in the ttrpg discourse, it is worth talking about the scope of this project. In essence, 13th Age 2nd Edition promises to be to 1st Edition what the 2024 "don't call it a new edition" D&D books promise as to the 2014 5e books. In other words, all of the supplemental materials like adventures and monsters from the 13th Age line will still be usable as is. As a Kickstarter backer (and playtester of 13th Age 2nd Edition for a while now), I've looked at what we are going to be getting for 2nd Edition, and I can tell you that the new material is going to work pretty seamlessly with the old material. In fact, because classes in 13th Age are more self-contained than in 5e, I predict intermixing old and new material in 13th Age is going to be far easier than in 5e.
Tuesday, July 9, 2024
The Once and Future King: 13th Age (2nd Edition) Preview
About a month ago, 13th Age completed their Kickstarter for a 2nd Edition of the game. Since the meaning of "edition" has become a contested space in the ttrpg discourse, it is worth talking about the scope of this project. In essence, 13th Age 2nd Edition promises to be to 1st Edition what the 2024 "don't call it a new edition" D&D books promise as to the 2014 5e books. In other words, all of the supplemental materials like adventures and monsters from the 13th Age line will still be usable as is. As a Kickstarter backer (and playtester of 13th Age 2nd Edition for a while now), I've looked at what we are going to be getting for 2nd Edition, and I can tell you that the new material is going to work pretty seamlessly with the old material. In fact, because classes in 13th Age are more self-contained than in 5e, I predict intermixing old and new material in 13th Age is going to be far easier than in 5e.
Sunday, June 2, 2024
Daggerheart--Beta Playtest Full Review
Much of the discussion around the "children of January 2023"--fantasy ttrpgs games announced on or around Wizards of the Coast's attempt to rework/cancel the OGL at that time--has involved whether or to what extent any or all of them will be "D&D Killers." Part of the problem with this discourse is that no one can agree on what it means to be a "D&D Killer." If you take the term literally and define a "D&D Killer" as a game that will be so popular and relevant that it causes Dungeons & Dragons to be driven from the market, then I think it is pretty safe to predict that none of the games on offer will meet that standard. Nor could they, reasonably--that's an absurd standard. But I think a more reasonable definition would be a game that not only has a long run and significant product line, but one that draws a material number of people who otherwise would play D&D away, such that D&D becomes meaningfully diminished in the market. By that definition, Vampire: the Masquerade was a D&D Killer in the 90s. I think there is a strong case that Pathfinder 1st edition was a D&D Killer in the early 10s. If you expand the scope of the analysis, I think you could say World of Warcraft was a D&D Killer in the mid 00s as well.
Using that standard, if you told me that there will be only one game out of the children of January 2023 that qualifies as a D&D Killer, I would absolutely put my money on Darrington Press's Daggerheart. Many of the games in this space either are or look to be really good. But I think only Daggerheart brings with it the promise of (1) targeting an identifiable slice of the D&D player base that is or could be open to a different approach to play; (2) providing a play experience that really serves that slice far better than 5e does; and (3) being backed a marketing machine in the form of the broader Critical Role extended universe to bring people to the game. It is still in Beta, but if it continues along the lines I have seen in the current version, I think Daggerheart is going to be a home run. So much so that I, a notorious ttrpg dilettante, think that Daggerheart is going to become my primary fantasy ttrpg going forward.
Before getting into my review, I should note that the game is in beta test, and as of this writing the current version is 1.4.1. It is possible that the game will change radically, possibly in a manner that takes away the things that I think make this game great. However, the recent revisions are much smaller in scope than the early revisions, suggesting that the designers are refining as opposed to reconstructing (as compared to MCDM RPG, which based on the design notes has changed radically since the first playtest document I discussed previously). As a result, I suspect that the final form of the game will be very similar to what we have now. In addition, it is worth mentioning that the beta is free, and is fully playable--not only in terms of the state of the rules but also in terms of the game aids (more on that later). So if you are interested in the game, you can pick up what is nearly the full rules and get playing right now, for free.
Getting back to those three elements I mentioned, I want to talk about #3 first, and then work my way back to the other two. I understand that there is a dedicated and passionate crowd of Critical Role Haters out there, people who genuinely believe that both the style of play represented by Critical Role and the people brought into the hobby as a result of the rise of Critical Role has been some sort of disaster for "true RPG players" or whatever. I also know that there is a group of people who are passionate Critical Role fans, who can at times be a bit uncritical and even militant about their fandom. But in between those poles, IMO, exist the vast majority of people in the ttrpg space who have generally positive thoughts about the Critical Role enterprise and various levels of engagement with their products and activities. And, because Critical Role is by far the largest enterprise of its type, it has a reach that other producers simply don't have. I write as someone who hasn't watched a full Critical Role episode in many years, but who is generally aware of what they are doing and am generally positive about Critical Role as a whole. It was because of their prominence that I became aware of Daggerheart, and I was curious enough to try out the playtest, even though I would say going in I was less excited about Daggerheart than some of its competitors like the MCDM RPG. The point is that Critical Role got me "in the door," and the fact that there are a lot of people who will be similarly situated is a massive boost to the reach of this game. That's an enormous advantage.
This brings us to the question of who this game is for. I think the best and most direct answer to that question is "people who run games, or who want to run games, that are more or less like the games showcased on Critical Role." This means at least two different things. First, they want character-driven game play, in which players can develop rich backgrounds and have those backgrounds drive play and the course of the overall narrative. But it also means that they want a robust combat system that provides fights that are tactical and interesting in their own right, as well as story-relevant. Given that there is a large number of 5e players who were brought into the hobby via Critical Role and/or other streamed games, this style of play and sensibilities represents a significant audience for this sort of game. But, again, not just those folks--I don't fit that description in terms of how I got into this hobby, and it reflects my style as well. Not only is this a sensible audience for a fantasy game to target in general, it is also particularly sensible for a game affiliated with Critical Role.
This second piece brings me to one of most common lines of criticism of Daggerheart I have seen, and one that I think is fundamentally wrong-headed. Daggerheart is obviously (and transparently--there is a list of which games influenced the design in the first couple of pages of the rules) influenced by the Powered by the Apocalypse/Forged in the Dark line of "fiction-forward" games. More specifically, it borrows some key terminology and concepts from those games, especially the idea of "GM Moves" (which I personally don't think is a particularly helpful or explanatory term, but YMMV). But it also takes inspiration from other, more mechanically oriented games. One persistent line of criticism says that drawing from these two streams is "confused," and that Daggerheart should learn all the way in to being a fiction-forward game in the model of the PbtA/FitD family.
I think this line of criticism/advice is wrong-headed because while PbtA/FitD games can deliver the character-driven storytelling piece, I would argue that they do not, and cannot deliver on the engaging combat piece. Dungeon World, the most prominent "generic" fantasy PbtA game, says it provides the D&D experience in a fiction-forward form, but for me it never delivered on that promise. One of the core principles is that combat is just another storytelling exercise, and as a result combat lacks that fun game element of combat-as-sport. If you take that away, you have a fundamentally different experience. At the risk of generalizing the PbtA/FitD fans, they generally don't see the combat-as-sport dimension to D&D as being a positive feature, or at least a value-added element, and so the lack of this element isn't a problem. But I would say for most of the D&D fanbase, including the Critical Role and Critical Role-adjacent fans, the lack of robust combat in the PbtA/FitD games is not going to fit the bill. The crunchy elements are, in my opinion, very necessary and central to the appeal to the game.
Which brings us to the rules execution. Darrington Press could market game to the maximum degree and target it perfectly at a key slice of 5e players, but it has no chance of making a long-term impact if it doesn't execute on these ideas. And, for me, Daggerheart nails it.
The first truly exceptional element of Daggerheart is what you might call its "form factor." Keep in mind--this game is in beta test. It is not a finished product, and there are some friction points in terms of accessibility (the proto-rule book is tough to navigate, for example). But the game clearly has given enormous thought to how it is going to present information to the players and GMs, and how that information is going to be used during play. Chief among these ideas is the implementation of cards. Each subclass, Ancestry and Heritage (the same division of "race" as ToV's Lineage and Heritage and A5e's Heritage and Culture) is expressed in terms of a card that lists all the relevant abilities, along with a descriptive piece of art. Perhaps more importantly, most of the class abilities take the form of access to two different "domains," which in turn take the form of selecting discrete power cards. The player thus has a hand of cards that represent their core character abilities. Higher level characters select from among their available cards to form a "load out."
The question that this structure immediately brings to mind is "how is all of this going to work online"? To address this, Daggerheart released with a fully functional implementation on Demiplane (the competitor to D&D Beyond, made by the former D&D Beyond team). And while Demiplane is not a VTT, it provides a seamless on-ramp for folks used to using D&D Beyond or similar systems for either in-person or online games.
Beyond the cards, Daggerheart provides a series of player and GM tools. Each class has a bespoke character sheet (clearly inspired by the PbtA "playbook" format) and a "sidecar" which slides alongside the character sheet and highlights the key elements of the sheet--a kind of "cheat sheet" for the character sheet. There are also several GM cheat sheets, along with (beautiful) blank word maps that can be used to develop a campaign world, a process that is well described in the rule book. The rule book in its current form has no lay-out or art, but judging from what is there with the other components I am confident that Daggerheart is going to set new standards for ttrpg presentation and lay-out. Just A+ all around.
The second exceptional element of Daggerheart is the way it takes what I will call "risks" in its design. I talked a bit about the Hope/Fear system here, but there are other systems that at first glance seem strange and even counter-intuitive, but prove to be really thoughtful and effective in play. Perhaps the best example is the full embrace of asymmetric mechanics. At least since 3.0 D&D, and outside of D&D for far longer than that, it has been an article of faith that you want a single, consistent resolution mechanic for all actions, whether they are player actions or GM actions. Daggerheart abandons this concept completely--players roll 2d12 for their actions, while the GM rolls 1d20. At first I thought this was a bit of sop to those who might be confused and frightened by the lack of a d20, but having run the game I now see this is a very smart bit of intentional design. The use of the d20 brings with it the "chaos plateau"--outcomes are very unpredictable, because each outcome on the die is equally likely. That's fine, and even fun, when it applies to NPCs who are one of many and not necessarily repeat players. If your bad guy can't hit the broadside of a barn (as happened in my last session), that's not a big deal. But if players, with their one character, get hit with the d20 randomness curse in games like 5e, it produces a negative play experience. So, Daggerheart gives the players a nice bell-curve with results clustered in the middle, alongside a high crit chance (1 in 12 or 8.3%) to spice things up. Keeping the d20 chaos plateau for NPCs but getting rid of it for players is really inspired and clever, and brings the best of both worlds in many respects.
Another element that I think many would consider a risk, at least based on some of the early reactions online, is the "lack" of an initiative system. In Daggerheart when combat begins PCs take turns as they wish, with each time they take an Action they give the GM an "Action Token." The PCs continue until either a player rolls "with Fear" or the GM spends a Fear token to seize the initiative. Then, the GM spends Action Tokens to take actions, and when those tokens are exhausted or all of the NPCs have been activated, play passes back to the PCs. The concern that was expressed about this system is that a single player can simply continue to insist on acting at every possible opportunity, monopolizing the game and depriving the other players of a chance to do anything.
To address this, there is an optional rule that each PC gets three actions that they can make, and then their pool does not refresh until each PC has spent their three activations. This rule is perfectly fine and seems to me like it would fix the problem identified completely. But I have found it to be wholly unnecessary in our games, because no player is taking more than a couple of turns in a row. In fact, if anything, I find myself reminding players that they can take back-to-back actions if it makes sense in the context of the flow of the fight, because everyone assumes that they must take turns and share the spotlight. I hesitate to say generally reductive things like "this is only a problem if your players suck" but . . . I think Daggerheart's combat sequencing is only a problem if your players are jerks. All I can say is that I have found zero problems with it, and I would strongly encourage people who have concerns to just give it a try.
In addition, the rest of the GM-facing mechanics are exceptional. Like games such as 13th Age, and very much unlike 5e, monsters and other antagonists have only the bare minimum of stats for the GM to keep track of, focusing on the cool special abilities they can perform in combat. I love this sort of design in 13th Age, and it works equally well here. The Fear Token system also provides a very clean way of balancing monster "specials" behind a limited GM mechanic. This is matched up with extensive use of countdown timers for events, allowing the GM to both model events happening "in the background" as well as adjudicate timing events during encounters. But the piece of design that works the best is the environments system. Locations have a simple set of stats, along with activations for both Action Tokens and Fear Tokens. It makes location-based encounters both simple to run and mechanically interesting, while also making the combat encounters more dynamic (since GM gets to use both the monster activations and the environment activations), all without a complex series of rules. It is the best implementation of set-piece locations I have seen, the text provides strong samples to work from, and it is very easy to design your own. 10/10.
The final exceptional piece to Daggerheart is the way it brings in the best ideas from the fiction forward games it draws from. As much as I think Daggerheart benefits from providing a more mechanical framework for portions of play, especially the combat piece, the action-reaction "yes, and" dynamic of PbtA/FitD games does create a very satisfying narrative flow, and Daggerheart adopts that structure completely. Perhaps more importantly, I think the way the game explains how that flow is supposed to work is one of the cleanest and simplest presentations of the basic structure. PbtA/FitD games can be, IMO, somewhat opaque and jargon-heavy, making it difficult for GMs coming from more traditional games to internalize its ideas. Daggerheart keeps the basic terminology ("GM Moves"), but the explanation is very clear and very helpful to new GMs, and also people like me who have struggled a bit with applying these concepts in play.
This feeds into the character-driven style of play that Critical Role is known for. Daggerheart plants a flag on the side of shared the world-building process between the players and the GM, but more importantly gives concrete, step-by-step advice on building out that sort of campaign. To me, this is critical, because a player or GM coming into the hobby via Critical Role or similar games is going to see the end product of that sort of campaign style on the screen, but not the process of getting there. And then the products available for sale for 5e, whether Exandria-focused or not, are much more prescriptive and pre-built, and thus also provide not much in the way of guidance for this project. It is not at all intuitive how to go about build a collaborative campaign with the players, and there are a number of people out there who want to make a campaign that is inspired by Mercer and the gang as opposed to completely copying their work. Daggerheart speaks directly to those players and GMs, providing very concrete and detailed explanations of how to go about planning and executing such a campaign.
There is still some work to do on this game, both in terms of the actual design and in terms of learning how to best run the game from a GM perspective. The numbers, like difficulties and damage, could use a little bit of fine-tuning. We do not know if Daggerheart is going to be published under an open license that allows for 3rd Party content--I suspect it will, and I hope so, because I think people are going to want to fill in the "gaps" with a lot of conversions of D&D elements into Daggerheart. But what is here is exceptional, and there is every indication that it is going to continue to be refined and improved prior to its final release next year. And it is fully playable now.
Whether it proves to be the "D&D Killer" or not, Daggerheart is an exceptional game, and it is for my money right now the most exciting offering out there in the space. If you have any interest in a hybrid between the fiction-forward play of the PbtA/FitD school and more "trad" play, I really encourage you to check it out.
Thursday, May 23, 2024
The 5e Substitutes--Tales of the Valiant vs. Advanced 5e
A couple of years ago, I reviewed Level Up: Advanced 5e from ENWorld Publishing. At the time, I said that it offers itself as an alternative not so much currently existing 5e, but whatever new version of 5e was coming down the pike from WotC. In the interim, we had the great OGL crisis of January 2023, leading to a slew of games from former 5e publishers that were explicitly set up as WotC alternatives. Many of these games--Daggerheart by Darrington Press, MCDM's currently untitled ttrpg, to take the two most prominent examples--went far afield from 5e, at least in terms of mechanics. But there was also Kobold Press's Tales of the Valiant, which was released to Kickstarter backers last week and like A5e is pitched as being compatible with 5e material. As a result, ToV and A5e are the two clearest choices for people who just want to be free of WotC without reorienting toward a different rules structure.
In addition, as Mike Shea of Sly Flourish has been pushing for some time now, because they are compatible with 5e, you can mine both of these sources for material for your (WotC-based) 5e game. I think it is worth pointing out that both of these products are fully stand alone, and I would argue they are both designed to be used as complete substitutes for at least the three 5e core rulebooks. In both cases, I think the intended use case is to adopt either ToV or A5e in total and then add back in WotC or other 5e material (especially adventures). But Shea is certainly right that you can pick and choose pieces to work into your existing games.
Which brings me to the purpose of this post--to try to compare the two games, in order to give a roadmap to 5e DMs who are open to adding in this material in whole or part into their games. Both games are, at least in their full forms, substantial investments. Both also provide a large amount of material to try to wade through. Finally, while both games are similar in the sense that they are based on 5e, they provide a fairly distinct philosophy and approach, so a 5e DM may easily find that one or the other is not in line with what they are looking for.
One last introductory comment. Because these games both have 5e under the hood, there are some "5e-isms" that cannot be changed without breaking compatibility. So, if you don't like the underlying math of 5e in terms of how die roll bonuses increase as you level up ("bounded accuracy") or the triple digit HP for medium to high level monsters or the basic class progression paradigm, neither of these games are going to be the solution you are looking for. Those elements (whether they are "problems" is in the eye of the beholder--I think they are, but obviously lots of people disagree) are baked into the core of what 5e is, and they can't be changed without the game becoming something else.
Complexity Level: As the name implies, Advanced 5e is self-consciously a more mechanically complex version of 5e. In the broadest terms, it takes what is present in 5e and adds additional mechanical systems on top--for travel, for social encounters, for more nuanced skill use, for combat maneuvers. There are some elements that replace existing 5e components, but it is mostly an additive process. If you were to run all of A5e, you would end up with a meaningfully more complex game than 5e.
By contrast, ToV is if anything an attempt to slightly simplify 5e. Mostly, this comes in terms of standardization and cleaning up some terminology issues. Many of the systems in 5e that are not explained well (Stealth and Hiding is a good example) are explained far better in ToV, but ultimately it is the same system. This is not to say the ToV is a "rules light" game, and it ends up being more or less in line with baseline 5e. But if you are looking for a 5e substitute, ToV is going to be less complex than A5e, while A5e is more mechanically robust.
New Dice Mechanics: ToV replaces Inspiration with a Luck point mechanic. When PCs fail attack rolls or saves, they gain a Luck point; in addition, the GM can award Luck points for "good role playing" and clever play. A Luck point can be spent on a one-for-one basis to bump a check, or three points can be spent to re-roll a check. To prevent players from hoarding Luck points, if the a PC accumulates more than 5 Luck Points, a random number of them will be deducted (which is sort of clunky, but I get why they do it).
A5e adds the Expertise Dice, which works sort of like Bardic Inspiration but is added to checks via class abilities, and scales up as class levels go up. Because of the way the Expertise Die is tied into the rebuilt A5e classes and/or some of the combat changes, it is far less modular than ToV's Luck point mechanic.
Three Pillars of Play: Probably the biggest selling point for A5e is the increased support for the non-combat elements of play. I particularly like the exploration challenge rules, which set up mechanical systems for overcoming terrain or situational obstacles, complete with XP rewards. Daggerheart has a similar system, and it is one of the best parts of that game, so having this sort of thing in 5e really fills out the game play. While these exploration challenges are deeply tied into the class design, they are still something you can lift out into other 5e games. Similarly, there are stronghold and follower rules that can easily be lifted into other 5e games.
ToV has reworked the downtime activities, and they are much better and more flavorful than the base 5e versions in the DMG (as does A5e to some extent, but not as much as ToV). Otherwise, ToV doesn't do much more with exploration or social than 5e. It is worth mentioning that a ToV gamemaster guide is due in September, and based on some previews it seems like there is going to be this sort of material in that book. But, for now, if you are looking for more material to fill out the other pillars of play A5e is clearly the place to go.
Class Design: Both games rebuild all of the classes that are listed in the 5e PHB. ToV standardizes the progression of "subclasses" (now a standard term--A5e calls them archetypes) across all classes, which are selected at level 3. A5e adds travel and social-oriented class abilities for every class, which often interact directly with other mechanical systems found in A5e. In both cases, mostly because of OGL-related rights issues, the books provide a new suite of subclasses/archetypes for each class. ToV's subclasses are in general pretty similar to the ones found in the 5e PHB, while A5e's are more divergent and, to me, a bit more interesting. ToV adds a "Mechanist" class, which is another take on the Artificer, while A5e adds a "Marshal" class which is clearly inspired by the 4e Warlord (and A5e also has an Artificer, but not in the core books). As a heads-up, A5e renames some of the core classes (Monk is now "Adept," Paladin is now "Herald," Barbarian is now "Berserker") which I still think is more confusing than helpful. In addition, the A5e Ranger is no longer a spellcaster (though there is an archetype that adds it back in).
Both games state that you can mix and match the classes from 5e with the classes present in their games. But ToV states up front in their conversion guide that their classes are more powerful on the whole in combat than 5e classes. Similarly, the fact that A5e classes provide access to combat maneuvers (see below) makes the martial classes more powerful than there 5e versions. In addition, the 5e classes will be significantly less competent in travel and social situations than the A5e versions, as they lack the specific class abilities that work in those domains. From my perspective, the class piece in both games is both the most interesting part and the least able to be incorporated into 5e, which is why I am of the view that both games are designed to be used as a whole.
"Origins": A5e calls the elements of character creation that don't involve the class piece "origins," and that's a handy umbrella term. Both games divide what 5e calls "race" into what you might think of as the "genetic" component (what sort of being the PC is) and the "cultural" component. ToV calls the "genetic" component "Lineage" and the cultural component "Heritage," while A5e calls the genetic component "Heritage" and the cultural component, well, "Culture." In both cases, Ability scores bonuses are decoupled from either of the two categories--ToV simply lets the player assign the bonuses however they wish or bakes the normal +2/+1 bonuses into the standard array, while A5e attaches the bonuses to Background. For what it is worth both work fine, but if we have agreed that we don't want to tie numerical bonuses to some particular genetic element, I think you might as well do what ToV does just make them floating modifiers. A5e provides for Heritage abilities that come on line at higher levels. As mentioned, A5e Backgrounds tack on the Ability Score bonuses, while ToV Backgrounds provide every character with a Talent, the ToV equivalent of a Feat (one of the reasons ToV characters are more powerful--everyone gets one at 1st level).
In addition, A5e adds the concept of an "Destiny," which is both a global motivation for adventuring as well as mechanism by which the character gains Inspiration. ToV Backgrounds also add an "adventuring motivation," which replaces the Traits/Flaws/Bonds concept from 5e.
ToV's "Origin" components are fairly easy to port over to 5e games--just remember to add your floating bonuses at the end and you are good to go. Keep in mind that ToV Backgrounds give everyone a Feat-equivalent, making them much more powerful and relevant than 5e Backgrounds. A5e requires a little bit more work, because different pieces of what 5e includes under "race" are scattered among the components. Maybe you don't care, but if you have players who want to make sure they are getting everything they got in 5e, you may need to fill in some holes if you mix and match components.
Combat: In general, the combat rules in both games are the same as 5e. A5e adds new tactical elements, including core flanking rules and new core combat actions. The big change A5e adds is a very extensive set of combat maneuver rules. There are a set of maneuvers that everyone can do, but martial characters have access to one or more Combat Traditions, which in turn give access to a suite of bespoke maneuvers powered by a pool of "exertion points." Weapons also have a bunch of new weapon properties.
ToV ties combat maneuvers into weapons, with each weapon providing a particular sort of maneuver that it can do. You can choose to do the maneuver instead of inflicting damage, and some martial classes have a feature which allows them to spend a bonus action to do the maneuver in addition to the normal attack. To be honest, I like ToV's version of combat maneuvers more than A5e's, mostly because of its simplicity, and the way it makes weapon choices meaningful. I have not really found any combat maneuver systems where the "juice" of more options is worth the "squeeze" of more complexity and the slow down of balancing the options. That is definitely a YMMV situation, but that's where I come down. In addition, I would point out that the ToV system is far more modular that A5e's combat maneuver system, which is deeply integrated into the class design.
Spellcasting: ToV makes four relatively minor but smart changes to the 5e spellcasting rules. First, "spell level" is remained "spell circle," which is a tremendous change because the distinction between "character level" and "spell level" has confused literally every person I have introduced D&D to. Second, they ditch the idea of class-specific spell lists in favor of four unified lists--Arcane, Divine, Primordial, and Wyrd. Third, long casting time, out of combat spells are designated as rituals and are learned separately from the the other spells (similar to 4e's handling of those types of spells). Finally, the ToV Warlock ditches its bespoke spell slot system (i.e. fewer slots that refresh on a short rest) in favor of making them half casters a la the Paladin and Ranger. All smart.
A5e also changes up the Warlock, using the optional spell point system from the 5e DMG for the Warlock alone, which is a bit of a strange choice. But the real meat of A5e is found in the spells themselves, many of which are reworked. More specifically, A5e nerfs many of the more notoriously problem spells in 5e. For example, A5e Fireball does 6d6 as opposed to 8d6 damage using the base 3rd level slot, while Counterspell cannot dispel a spell of a level higher than the slot used, and even if Counterspell works the caster can still get off a lower level spell as a consolation prize. On the flip side, a number of spells that don't have higher level casting options in 5e do in A5e, making the spells more flexible. Finally, A5e introduces the concept of rare, "named" versions of spells, that are upgrades that can be given as treasure (a great idea, and one that can easily be ported in to other 5e-based games).
A couple of commentators have lamented that ToV didn't do what A5e did to the spells, and I agree that this was a bit of a missed opportunity. But I don't see any reason why you couldn't use A5e's spells in either 5e or ToV.
Monsters: Both ToV and A5e provide a full monster book that rebuilds all of the common D&D monsters--humanoids, dragons, giants, undead, etc. I have not done a comprehensive survey of each monster in both books as compared to the 5e versions, but there are some pretty clear trends.
ToV, and the designers are very explicit about this, buffs up all of the monsters from their 5e versions. Kobold Press's previous monster books are well known for having monsters that were somewhere between meaningfully and significantly tougher than 5e monsters with equivalent CR, and the ToV monsters are designed to be at the same level as the other Kobold Press books. To take an example, the ToV troll has 10 more HP than the 5e troll, buffs bite damage from 1d6+4 to 2d8+4, and adds a bonus action that lets wounded trolls make a free bite attack and heal the damage it inflicts. Likewise, the Wight goes from 45 to 69 HP, and all of its attacks do double the damage of the 5e version. There are some interesting mechanics added to some of the monsters (I particularly like the ToV giants), but most of what ToV does to its monsters involves making the numbers bigger.
A5e approaches its monsters in a different way. There are some numeric buffs (sticking with the troll, there is a slight damage buff on the bite attack), but the primary changes revolve around adding more interesting special attacks and abilities. For example, the A5e troll has a "severed limbs" ability, such that when the troll is attacked with slashing weapons creates a series of limbs that make additional attacks, while the Wight has a cold aura and a grapple attack that triggers the life drain attack. In doing so, A5e monsters are similar to the "action-oriented" monsters that MCDM put forward in their Flee Mortals! book, which in turn is clearly and transparently inspired by 4e's monster design ethos. It is also worth noting that the A5e monsters also include built-in results for PC knowledge rolls, random behavior from the monster, and pre-created encounters using the monster--all very useful, and could be used even if you don't use the stat block.
Putting it together, if you are a DM that thinks that 5e monsters are weak, then ToV is the place to go to fix that; if you think 5e monsters are boring when running them, then A5e is going to be the place to go (or, also Flee Mortals!). Truthfully, the monster piece is by far the most modular part of either of the game, so this might be the easiest and best way to dip your toe into these product lines.
Just as an aside, both ToV and A5e have monsters with spell lists, which is no longer the design paradigm with 5e. YMMV.
Wednesday, April 10, 2024
Daggerheart, 2d20, and the "GM's Game"
A couple of weeks ago, Critical Role's imprint Darrington Press released the beta playtest packet for their new fantasy ttrpg Daggerheart. I have run it for a group, some of whom had no ttrpg experience, and it went incredibly well. We are going to keep playing, and some new people are going to be recruited into the group. So, you might say I am incredibly excited about this game. It is still very much in beta, and there are some rough edges to smooth out, but the tabletop experience it produces is excellent.
On Page 11 of the current (v. 1.3, released yesterday as of this writing) of the Playtest Manuscript, there is an extensive list of games that inspired Daggerheart. Notably absent from the list is Modiphius's 2d20 system. In part because I am familiar with the 2d20 games in a way I am not with other listed touchstones, I was surprised by this exclusion, as Daggerheart feels very similar to the 2d20 games. After running it, and particularly after digesting the 1.3 version, I think this is less an example of inspiration and more one of parallel evolution. Daggerheart and 2d20 games arrive at a similar place, especially from the point of view of the GM experience, but they do so via different starting premises. In this post, I want to break down these differing lines of development, and then talk about why I am coming around to the view that these styles of ttrpg are my personal sweet spot, as a player but especially as a GM.
Both Daggerheart and 2d20 games have at their heart a game mechanical "economy" that utilizes what are usually called "meta-currencies." Players (not the characters, the players) and the GM have resources that they can spend to change the way the story proceeds. As the excellent deep-dive video that Derik from Knights of the Last Call astutely points out (beginning at 51:00), this is related to but conceptually distinct from so-called "fiction first" games and game mechanics, which try to avoid interjecting mechanics into the narrative space. Here, these currencies are tools to allow players and GMs to intervene in the story flow and introduce new elements or change the dynamic. But, they are "economic" in the sense that they are a limited resource, and the game is predicated on players and GMs making decisions about how they will spend them--do I intervene here in this way, or do I save it for some future opportunity? This is an aside from this post, but there is a line of criticism from advocates of fiction first games (especially the Powered by the Apocalypse/Forged in the Dark line) that these sorts of mechanics impose unnecessary and counterproductive limitations on the players and the GM "following the fiction." For my own tastes, I am firmly in the camp of these limitations are features not bugs, for reasons I somewhat explored here and here, and will say more about at the end of this post.
In any event, let's talk about 2d20 [as a brief aside, Modiphius's new 2d20 game Dreams and Machines adds another economic "loop" to the basic 2d20 system, but here we will skip that and focus on the other games in the family]. The fundamental economic unit of the 2d20 system is the success. Every time a players has to make a "check," they get 2 twenty-sided dice to roll, and those dice can each generate between 0 and 2 successes, depending on the rolls and the related character abilities. Likewise, when NPCs make a check, they usually get 2d20 to roll and generate successes. As the name implies, successes are used to succeed on whatever task generated the check--difficulties are rated on a scale of 0 to 5 total successes needed, with most checks requiring either 1 or 2. But the reason successes are economic is that any additional successes generated beyond the ones needed to pass the check are converted into a currency, called "Momentum" when the players generate the successes and in most 2d20 games "Threat" when the GM rolls.
Momentum/Threat can be used in basically three categories of ways. First, they can be spent immediately to add riders or status effects onto the outcome of the check itself. So, for example, an attack that rolls well and generates Momentum/Threat can have that new resource be spent to cause additional damage or perform a combat maneuver like disarming the foe or knocking them down, or even take another action. Or, they can be banked for future use. The most common future use case is to buy additional dice to roll on a subsequent check. Not only does this increase the chance of success on that roll, but it makes it more likely that there will be additional Momentum/Threat generated from the roll, creating a feedback loop. But there are also other, more narrative spends for Momentum/Threat, especially on the GM side and especially with the more abstract and narrative focused versions of 2d20 (like Star Trek Adventures and Dune).
The wrinkle here is that Momentum and Threat are convertible with each other. A player can spend 1 Momentum to buy 1 additional dice to roll on a check, or she can give the GM 1 Threat to obtain the same bonus d20. Another wrinkle is that checks can generate complications, which can either be immediately imposed on the scene, or converted into Threat (+2 Threat if it is a complication generated by the players, -2 Threat for an NPC complication). Likewise, a spend of 2 Threat at any time by the GM, and in most cases 2 Momentum by the players, introduces a complication into a scene for the other side. And, thus, Momentum and Threat function as commodities with clear pricing and the ability to be traded back and forth between the players and the GM and spent in various ways. It's worth noting that each player has a Momentum pool cap of 6 and a mechanic where Momentum bleeds away over time, while the GM's Threat pool is uncapped and remains until spent.
Finally, 2d20 games generally use a fairly traditional action economy and turn structure. In a combat sequence, for most games the turn order is PC/NPC/PC/NPC, and in a turn you have a standard action (which involves a check) and a suite of minor and free actions. Other than the lack of cyclic initiative, it is basically the same concept as d20 games like D&D.
Now let's look at Daggerheart. Like 2d20 games, the players and the GM have respective meta-currencies, Hope and Fear. And these meta-currencies are generated primarily from checks. But, unlike 2d20, the generation of Hope and Fear is separate and apart from succeeding or failing the check. Success and failure involves adding up the 2d12 plus modifiers to beat a target number, just like d20 games. However, depending on which of the d12s is higher, the roll will also be "with Hope" or "with Fear," and this outcome is independent of the success/failure dichotomy. So, you can Succeed with Fear and Fail with Hope, as well as Succeeding with Hope and Failing with Fear (you can also critically succeed, which has distinct effects but from an "economic" perspective is a Success with Hope). If PCs roll "with Hope," then they get a Hope point. If they roll with Fear, then (as of the v. 1.3 revision) the GM either "makes a move" (which is broader than but functionally similar to 2d20's imposing a complication) or takes a Fear point. Critically, this mechanic only applies to player rolls--when the GM rolls for NPCs, he or she uses a completely different die mechanic that does not generate either Hope or Fear. So, as compared to 2d20 games, the total volume of Hope and Fear being generated is significantly less. On the flip side, Hope doesn't degrade on the player side, and the GM is capped at 6 Fear (reduced down from 10 in the v. 1.3 revision).
A critical difference in Daggerheart is that Hope is not directly convertible into Fear in the way Momentum and Threat are in 2d20, at least not in the current draft. I have seen complaints online that players are Hope starved at times, and one of the obvious solutions coming from a 2d20 background is to let players buy Hope in return for Fear. I'm probably going to experiment with this at some point, but given the relatively small Fear pool for the GM I am not sure this will work. Another very important difference is that v 1.3 removed any Fear spends that allow the GM to boost NPC dice rolls. At first, this was a bit of a head-scratcher for me, but I think the idea is to cut any links between success/failure and the Fear point mechanic. Now, they are wholly separate, and instead Fear points are now used to activate NPC and/or environmental special abilities. This concept was there in the v. 1.2 draft, but has been strongly enhanced by a more robust explanation of environmental spends, including lots of environmental spends for out of combat situations. This parallels the game flow of 2d20 games, where Threat is used to activate terrain features and other environmental elements.
But the other primary use of Fear points relates to the action economy. Much to the consternation of many online commentators, Daggerheart has no initiative system (even the so-called "turn based initiative" optional rule in the v. 1.3 packet is not really an initiative system in the d20 model, but a way to regulate intra-party actions). Whenever a player wants their PC to do something, they do it. But, when they do something that counts as an "Action" (which usually, but now not always, involves a dice roll), they hand the GM an Action Token for the Action tracker. When players fail a check, "initiative" passed back to the GM, who then spends Action Tokens to activate NPCs to take actions. Critically, Action Tokens can be converted into Fear Tokens and visa versa at a 2 Action Token to 1 Fear Token exchange rate. In other words, every time a player takes an Action, they hand the GM the equivalent of half of a Fear Token as the "cost" for taking that Action. In addition, the GM can spend 1 Fear to seize the initiative from the players after any check (down from 2 Fear in v. 1.2). So, on a roll with Fear, even if successful, the GM always has the option of seizing the initiative from the players by taking a Fear point and then immediately spending it.
As a result, while the fundamental economic unit of 2d20 games is the success, the fundamental economic unit of Daggerheart is the action. Every action the PCs take generates a counter resource for the GM. Rolling a Fear result gives the GM a Fear token, which converts to an additional two actions down the line. One of the definite changes in emphasis in the v. 1.3 draft is that the designers are making clear that "Action Token" does not mean exclusively "Combat Action Token," as the implication is that this Action Token structure can and should be used for set-piece non-combat scenarios like big negotiations or social gatherings. In such a situation, PCs will take non-combat actions that generate Action Tokens, allowing the GM to then spend them on counter-actions (especially as the v. 1.3 draft now makes the "Stress" tracker feel much more like "mental HP" than "stun damage").
I predict the PbtA, fiction-first crowd is going to hate the v. 1.3 draft, as it moves Daggerheart in a more "gamified" direction. I, however, love this direction, because I think these sorts of narrativist game mechanics are much more enjoyable from the GM side of the screen. The problem with fiction-first games IME is that the GM is almost forced to take on the "story concierge" stance that I mentioned in the previous post. Fiction-first games are designed around the players leading the narrative and the GM "yes, and-ing" in response. It's a very passive set-up, at least during play (and even out of play, as those games tend to push the idea of the players as co-creators of the world, for sound reasons but nevertheless resulting in even further reduction in opportunities for GM creativity and freedom of action).
But, more to the point, there is no game there for the GM in the fiction-first games. And games are fun. 2d20 games and Daggerheart, while there are differences in their implementation discussed above, both give the GM a set of fun toys to play with. I as the GM can look at my pile of Threat/Fear tokens and figure out how to most effectively use them on behalf of the NPCs, knowing that because they are a limited resource I have a much reduced danger of unfairly steamrolling the PCs in an un-fun way. I as the GM can play a fair and fun game, matching wits with my players without being antagonistic toward them. I know people love the PbtA games, and you should play what you want, but I think the more mechanically-forward games like 2d20 and Daggerheart are just more fun from the GM side. I like being the "Master of Ceremonies" (as Apocalypse World calls its GMs), but I like actually playing a game, too.
As far as between the two, I like that Daggerheart appears to me moving toward at once a more focused and also more widely-applicable set of options for the players and GM with its currencies and mechanics. 2d20 games tend toward menus of options for Momentum/Threat spends, which can result in choice paralysis. Daggerheart is directing Hope/Fear spends toward a more discrete set of options, which while limiting options makes it easier to pick up. On the same line, while much of the GM flexibility for manipulating scenes seems to be cabined in the environmental Fear spends, improv-oriented GMs can just improv the environmental effects, while more prep-oriented GMs have the structure as a back-stop. That's a nice compromise between styles.
My one question is whether it makes sense for Daggerheart to simply collapse the Action Tokens and Fear Tokens into a single pool. I think the conversion rate of 2 NPC actions to 1 special ability use feels right, so if you collapsed the two pools you would need to award 2 Action Tokens for a roll "with Fear." That's a bit awkward, and breaks the symmetry between the with Hope and with Fear result, which is why I think the designers have not made this move. But having a single pool would make the economy behind the game fully transparent.
In any event, while I understand why this game is not going to be to everyone's taste, I think Daggerheart is shaping up to be excellent. And, perhaps more to the point, precisely in my personal wheelhouse, such that I think it has a strong chance to become my go-to fantasy ttrpg.
Monday, January 29, 2024
The MCDM RPG--Playtest #1 Notes
One of the weirder, and by "weird" I really mean "wrong," talking points out in the ttprg space is the notion that 13th Age is the successor to D&D 4e. To be clear, I am a long-time fan of 13th Age (see here), and I am someone who got back into D&D and the ttprg hobby in general with 4e back in the day. So, this is not a case of "how dare you associate [game I like] with [game I hate]!" No, the issue is that I don't think the two games are actually that much alike in terms of the core of what brings people to the respective games. If you liked 4e enough to be interested in a successor, you surely liked at least to some degree the robust, heavily tactical combat system that had movement and forced movement as a key lynch-pin. 13th Age has none of that, and in fact has a more abstract movement and positioning system than, for example, 5e. So, while it is true that Rob Heinsoo was a key designer on both games, and its is true that there are a handful of mechanics (healing surges/recoveries come to mind) from 4e in 13th Age, if you liked 4e specifically I don't think there is any particular reason to think you would like 13th Age any more than any other fantasy game.
No, the real successor to 4e is MCDM Productions' forthcoming RPG, currently known simply as "The MCDM RPG." In December, the MCDM RPG broke records by raising $4.6 million via Backerkit. The final version of the game is promised for Q2 of next year, but you can get access to the Alpha playtests via participating in MCDM Productions' Patreon program. I backed both the crowdfunding and the Patreon, and last Sunday I finished up running the first Alpha playtest packet. And having done so, it is very clear to me that MCDM RPG is trying to capture the feel of 4e, and especially the feel of the core combat loop of 4e, while improving on some of the problems that pushed people away from 4e. The game is still very much in its nascent stage, but I can report that it feels like they are well on their way toward hitting that target.
Let's talk first about the combat loop. Like 4e, MCDM RPG is predicated on the idea of using a grid and counting squares for movement. But the similarities go deeper than that, as many of the abilities that characters and monsters use in combat have "riders" that either force the opponent to move in a particular way, allow the character to move, or both. This in turn makes the battle space and using the battle space a key part of game play--in our playtest folks were thrown off roofs, against walls, down pits, etc. It's worth pointing out that the focus on forced movement and controlling movement distinguishes MCDM RPG and 4e from another popular tactical fantasy RPG, Pathfinder 2e, which is designed around the idea that all participants in the battle space will generally have free movement (by, for example, cutting way back on the prevalence of opportunity attacks).
Likewise, a key part of the game is that the abilities synergize with each other, including abilities of different PCs and different monsters. Here, I think MCDM improves on the 4e in a significant way by ditching the post-3e cyclic initiative model (where you roll initiative in the beginning and get locked into a fixed order within a turn) in favor of a system where the players and the Directors (the MCDM RPG term for the GM) can set the order of action each turn within a basic "you go, I go" format. This allows PCs and monsters to set up combos and stage actions in a way that really causes both sides to think about what they are doing. I've used similar systems in other games (Torg: Eternity and Modiphius's 2d20 games come to mind) and I simply like it better than the cyclic model--it's more fun and more engaging, for both players and GMs. And as we got more familiar with the options in the game as the playtest went on, we found fun combinations and uses for the various abilities.
There is no question that MCDM RPG is still a work in progress in many respects, but I think the core combat loop, building on what was fun about 4e, is there. So much so that I think the real question is the degree to which MCDM RPG fixes the problems with 4e, such that it can become a true successor as opposed to a copy-cat. Here, I think we can identify the four most common complaints about 4e (putting aside truly technical problems, like 4e's early wonky monster scaling and math) and see the degree to which MCDM RPG addresses them--(1) "4e didn't feel like D&D;" (2) "all the classes felt the same;" (3) "combat was too slow and too much of a slog;" and (4) "4e was too combat focused and lacked other play dimensions."
"4e Didn't Feel Like D&D." Of all the complaints, this is the most amorphous one, and for me the least salient. D&D has existed in some many discrete forms, with so many different assumed styles of play, that I think "feels like D&D" is going to necessarily mean different things to different people. Nevertheless, it was a big part of the negative discourse around 4e, and so it should be mentioned.
Here, I think MCDM RPG fixes the problem simply by not having the word "D&D" in the title. Whether fair or not (and I think not), people picked up the new 4e Players Handbook with the expectation that play will feel like all of the other times they sat down to play D&D. Because this is a new game, albeit one certainly influenced by D&D, I think players and GMs will come to MCDM RPG without that baggage, and will be better positioned to accept the game as it is.
In fact, not having "D&D" in the title allows MCDM RPG to go further to address problems with the D&D paradigm that would not be well received if the game was attempting to be in continuity with previous editions of D&D. In a recent development stream, Matt Colville mentioned that he thinks one of the sources of the "linear Fighter, quadratic Wizard" problem is that the jack-of-all-magic Wizard is too all-encompassing a concept to properly balance. The first playtest packet does not contain an arcane spellcaster, but it looks like the direction they are going to go is toward more specialized concepts (they have floated a "Summoner" and an "Elementalist" as future classes) and no generalist wizard/magic-user. Colville is probably right about the inherent and unfixable problem with the Wizard as a concept, but I think an edition of D&D that says "no wizards" is going to cause enormous wailing and gnashing of teeth among the D&D fanbase. The MCDM RPG avoids this problem by simply not being in the direct lineage of D&D, and thus does not have to cater to those concerns. [For what it's worth, this is how I interpret the line in the MCDM RPG marketing materials about being "unburdened by sacred cows from the 1970s" which got the usual suspects in the OSR community so fired up online].
"All the Classes Feel the Same." 4e placed all PC abilities into a fixed structure, where at a particular level a PC got a certain number of "At Will" abilities, a certain number of "per Encounter" abilities, and a certain number of "Daily" abilities. Because the focus was on balancing abilities across classes, the criticism was that all of the abilities were mechanically the same with different flavoring, and thus the play experience of each class is the same.
MCDM's takes this three tiered structure and replaces it with two--"Signature Abilities" that fill the same place as 4e At Will abilities, and "Heroic Abilities." Heroic Abilities are fueled by a "Heroic Resource" pool, and each class has different mechanics for gaining and spending points from the Heroic Resource pool. Critically, each class's Heroic Resource mechanics are wildly different. The Fury (the barbarian-type class) gains Rage points at the beginning of every turn, gets a lot of them, and gets passive bonuses based on the number of Rage points in the bank, incentivizing the player to "walk the line" and keep the Rage points in the bank high. The Shadow gains "Insight" through using Signature Abilities, incentivizing the player to have MMO-style rotations in combat. The Talent (the psychic/psionic class) has a negative resource that they accumulate which debuffs (and can eventually kill) the PC for using Heroic Abilities.
Thus, while each class is structured similarly, the play experience of each class is wildly different. While it definitely took a bit to get a handle on each class's mechanics, my players were very happy with their class choices, and the Talent that I was playing for a bit nearly blew her brain up with Strain, which was exactly what you want out of that class. We will have to see each of the classes and how they work, but what is there right now is really strong.
The other piece that works with this structure is the Victories system. Basically, every encounter the PCs successfully overcome (whether a combat encounter, a trap-based encounter, or a social encounter) grants 1 Victory, and these Victories persist until the PCs take a full rest (in which case the Victories are converted into XP). While in general Heroic Resources reset at the end of a combat, each Victory in the can usually results in starting with that many points in the Heroic Resource pool at the beginning of the combat. As a result, the more encounters that have been successfully overcome in a particular session, the bigger pool the PCs will have to use their more powerful Heroic Abilities. This allows for a natural power progression during a session, while simultaneously disincentivizing PCs from resting after every encounter to maximize resources.
All of this, I think, is a home run, and I predict classes and class design will be MCDM RPG's "killer app."
"Combat is Too Slow and Too Much of a Slog." The big move that MCDM makes in this space is to get rid of the attack roll. Each attack simply does a certain amount of damage. The advantage here is basically two-fold. One, and I think most importantly, on each turn each player does something meaningful--there are no "whiffs" where the attack roll fails and the PC essentially does nothing. Second, there is simply one less die roll in a round, which speeds things up.
Does this fix the problem? I think my answer here is "maybe?" The "no whiff" part is nice, especially since one of my players has truly terrible dice rolling luck. But a couple of things give me some pause. First, because everyone hits on every attack, HP are quite high even at lower levels. For example, the boss encounter at the end of the adventure had 140 HP. Damage was in the teens to low 20s on most attacks, but I am a bit concerned about HP bloat, which was a problem with 4e (and 5e). But, this is ultimately a tuning issue and an easy fix, to the extent it is an issue.
Another slow down we ran into was the boon and bane system. Along the lines of advantage and disadvantage, a boon adds 1d4 to a roll and a bane subtracts 1d4. Unlike 5e, there can be multiple boons or banes on a roll, alongside floating fixed-number modifiers. So, at times, it took a bit of time to calculate what the proper dice pool to roll on a particular attack actually was, even though the base amount was on the character sheet. This is definitely in part a system mastery issue, and also that we were not using a streamlined VTT experience. But my concern is that the gains realized from getting rid of the attack role will be lost in increasingly the complexity of the damage roll.
So, this one is a "TBD" for me. The combat loop is so much fun that my tolerance for taking on complexity is going to be pretty high, but this is definitely not going to be a rules-light game. Finding that balance is going to be key.
"The Game Is Lacking Non-Combat Dimensions." The MCDM crew has made clear that the game is going to very focused on heroic, cinematic stories with pitched battles with monsters. It will not be a proceduralist dungeon crawl, nor a hexcrawl. It also is clearly not a narrativist or "story game." So, I think this question of what this game brings to the table other than combat is an important one to both the long-term success of the game and my level of long-term interest.
This is also a TBD question, for very understandable reasons. In its current form, the MCDM RPG takes the form of a "vertical slice." It is not a full game, and it will not be a full game for some time. The ultimate answer to this question will not be clear for a year or so.
The sneak peak to MCDM's answer to this challenge is the Negotiation system. The NPC to which you were negotiating with has a numerical rating expressing their attitude toward the PCs (Interest), and a numerical rating for how long the NPC is willing to sit around and continue the negotiation (Patience). The NPC has a few things that the PCs can say that will automatically bump up the Interest level, and a few things that will automatically bump down the Patience level. For everything else, there is a skill check--succeed and you bump up Interest, fail and you bump down Patience. When the PCs get what they want, or Patience goes to zero, the Negotiation is over and the level of Interest determines the outcome.
This is somewhat similar to the, umm, controversial skill challenge mechanics from 4e. Part of the criticism of the 4e skill challenge system was that it was anti-roleplaying, in that what you might say narratively to the King was completely divorced from what game mechanical results you get via the skill check. I think this system fixes that problem, since if the players are clever at figuring out the right things to say to the NPC they basically auto-succeed, while still allowing PCs to flail around a bit and try things with the hope of moving things forward (while avoiding the "mother may I" problem of requiring the players to say whatever magic words the GM has come up with ahead of time). It needs some tweaks--as with the early versions of 4e skill challenges, I thought the DCs of the "in between" skill checks were too high--but I think the idea is very solid.
Moreover, I think this formula is replicable to other sorts of non-combat events. The playtest adventure had some really fun traps, and one of them in particular had a similar model of "this will disarm it, or you can make a skill check and see what happens." For all sorts of challenges, I like the model of "A, B, and C will automatically work, X, Y, and Z will never work and will make things worse, and everything else is a die roll." It rewards player creativity and role-playing, while also allowing PCs to "brute force" the problem through good dice rolling, avoiding plot cul-de-sacs where the players just can't figure out the puzzle.
So, my advice to the MCDM folks is to really lean into this formula and structure, and make the negotiation mechanic more generalized and more expansive.
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The bottom line here is that I went into this playtest very excited about the MCDM RPG, and left even more excited. If you haven't gotten on-board the MCDM train, I would highly encourage giving it serious consideration.

